After having interviewed my daughters a
few years ago after they had lived in Italy for a year during their
teen years, I concluded that I was not afraid to leave my daughters
and wife alone in most places in Italy. I wrote about this in Do Italian males live up to reputation for their persistent and flirtatious behavior? Now I have additional confirmation and
statistics to support my thesis.
Italian girls and boys receive lots of practice in interpersonal relationships during the Italian passeggiata, one reason they may be more skilled socially than American young people. |
I’m reading a fascinating book,
Amore, by cultural sociologist Roger Friedland, who is
imminently more qualified than I to speak on the topic. Friedland
studies and teaches on love, sex and God, and he has worked in
universities in both the United States and Rome, Italy. During his
seminar classes, students in both countries freely shared their
encounters with members of the opposite sex. Friedland also brought
his wife and two coming-of-age daughters with him to Italy, giving
him additional first-hand accounts and insights.
He observed that young women frequently
walked alone at night in Rome’s city center, waiting near midnight
for the last buses home. Were they harassed or afraid, he asked the
women in his class. They told him that boys routinely made unwanted
remarks, came too close and sometimes touched them where they didn’t
want to be touched. However, the women were not afraid.
Friedland discovered that American and
Italian women were equally likely to endure harassment. “But,” he
continued, “there is a difference, a big one: American men are much
more likely to commit rape. One-quarter of female college students in
America will experience either rape or attempted rape. Twelve percent
of high school girls have already been raped. The real numbers are
likely much higher, because many women not only don’t tell the
police; they don’t tell anyone.”
Friedland’s Italian students were
stunned to hear these statistics. Fewer than 5 percent of Italian
women between the ages of 16 and 24 have ever experienced rape or
attempted rape. Most of that—about 70 percent—was committed by
their intimate partner.
“The question is, why?” Friedland
asks. “It’s not because Roman men don’t look. They are
voracious with their eyes, savoring the bodies of women as they pass.
After all the time I’ve spent in Rome, I’ve come to think that
part of the reason rape is so much rarer in Italy is that Italian men
love women more than American men do. Beneath all the sexual jest,
the lusty looks and suggestive remarks, Roman men respect women.”
Friedland’s daughters were subjected
to this harassment as they entered their teen years, but they learned
to cope along with the Italian girls. He said that Italians accept
that flirting is part of human nature but is not a precursor to rape.
Girls in Italy are free to “swear at the boys, to berate them, hit
them on the heads or in the face, belittling them for their pathetic
antics.” His girls didn’t regard the advances as dangerous.
“Roman women who grow up in the
system learn to maneuver, to parry and resist the verbal and visual
predations of men, because they feel relatively safe from violation,”
he writes. “Roman girls learn early not to be afraid of boys. They
grow accustomed to walking alone to the square to fetch olive oil or
pizza bianca for their mothers.”
Friedland also contrasts Americans and
Italians in their beliefs about marriage. The American students he
surveyed while teaching at UC Santa Barbara wondered whether love is
real; they seemed afraid to believe in love and lifelong marriage
because they had witnessed so much disappointment in their parents’
relationships. Only about 60 percent of the UC students said they
wanted to marry and stay with one person all their lives, and less
than half said they actually expected to.
And why should they? Of American
couples who married in the first five years of the 1990s, 42 percent
divorced within 15 years. By contrast, only 8 percent of comparable
Italian couples had separated. In the United States, close to half of
all marriages are remarriages. In Italy, 95 percent of all marriages
are first-time ventures for both parties.
Friedland also found that Italians
are—to put it delicately—better lovers. To put it less
delicately, he said that “young Italians—especially females, but
also males—have more frequent orgasms than young Americans. Love
makes for pleasure. Love radically increases the probability that a
woman will have an orgasm. Italians still revere passion. Because the
men love the women, they are more likely to care about giving them
pleasure. And the women they love take pleasure from that love. Men’s
love works.”
Again, the question must be asked, why
this difference? Friedland goes to great length to answer this, and
for a more complete explanation, you’ll need to read his book. But the
heart of the answer has to do with how Italians experience family and
family life. Italian families are all-absorbing, involving
grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles.
“Roman kids are deeply invested in
their families—forever,” he said. “Unlike middle-class American
kids, who leave for college and return home just to rest and refuel,
most young Italians continue to live at home while attending
university. When Roman kids do move out, it’s to get married and
set up their own households. That often happens nearby, even in the
very same building their parents live in, frequently with their
parents help. And overwhelmingly, they rely on their parents to care
for their children when they can’t be there.”
I don’t mean to make it sound like
Italian family life and male-female relationships are some kind of
paradise. We’ve seen husbands and wives yelling at each other on
the streets, families arguing loudly in houses as we pass by, and we
read headlines in the Italian newspapers about murder and abuse.
We’ve been warned that certain parts of large cities are unsafe to
walk in at night. But to fear, as I once did, that Italy may be more
dangerous for my daughters than the United States is
nonsense—unless I was worried that they might fall in love and have stable marriages.
I throughly enjoyed reading Your article concerning women’s safety from aggressive males in Italy.
ReplyDeleteOur granddaughters will be traveling to Italy on a cruise this May and I was joking about how Italian men “ butt grab” the women as a gesture of endearment. Their reaction was “ No way, Papa”🤨. Growing up in a Neapolitan home, I had always heard that in “ The old country” if you were to visit there, be ready to experience the gesture, but there was no need to be fearful of men, they “Justa lova’ da women”
To be sure that the practice might be outdated, I Google the subject and was intrigued in reading Your study.
My wife’s paternal family is from a rural Scottish culture, , where physical touching is far the norm, but there was a balance from a Southern Alabama kinship, where the regular “Sunday lawn potluck dinner” was greeted with a traditional hug and “Howdy Sister Estelle” before and after departing until the “mid-week Wednesday fellowship and Bible study” meeting, so my wife gets the “ best of both worlds” as I’m a American/Italian hybrid🇺🇸🇮🇹.
Your perspective on Italian family’s “bickering” and “yelling” certainly resonate with me, as certain regional land masses demanded a high degree of social respect than others ( my Dad’s ‘ people’ were Calabrias- the Hardheads’ as my Neapolitan Nana, so often reminded my Father of 🧐)!.
All in all I find the cultural idiocies fascinating when visiting other cultures/peoples, (even in the US) more so than structures and monuments.
Be Blessed-Matt633
Another possibility is that the definition of rape is different in the two nations.
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